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Post by Faceman on Mar 10, 2019 21:01:25 GMT
Technically they cover this by letting you ask the Emperor to send help - but if i recall correctly neither Geralt or the Emperor can agree on who's in charge of the troops. The Emperor's condition for sending troops to Kaer Morhen is that Morvran Voorhis be in command. Right, and Geralt I think automatically says no to that - I don't think we get a chance to make him say yes. But, we do get to go talk to the Emperor, which does cover a common sense choice in the matter - I think we can also ask Dykstra for help but he says no as well.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 10, 2019 21:06:42 GMT
Faceman , Onecrazymonkey1 ,@dustyelf , Sundance Been enjoying TW3. I'll end up finishing this game with a ton of content never touched. That's ok though, save that for future playthroughs. I'm at Kaer Morhen getting ready to battle the Wild Hunt. Maybe the devs did it for technical reasons, but I think it would be better if not just the main actors showed up. There could have been more troops that came with Roche other than just Ves, more Skellige troops, etc. Geralt did a lot over the years for these people. Isn't it kinda odd that only the main actors show up by themselves? I just think it would be better on a little larger scale than that. Battle at Kaer Morhen, that's a fun battle. I thought he only asked his friends because the Wild Hunt were from another world and the common people (non-mage, non-witcher) wouldn't know how to fight them. And also there's not many humans who would be willing to help a witcher especially in a battle like that or in the case of Roche or Cerys to risk their men when they are needed elsewhere. I'm sure there's a better lore explanation out there.
Did you have time to explore the area around Kaer Morhen. One of the best moments was going to see the Kaer again and having Lambert and the guys there. I did a couple of side quests. I was riding my horse and was attacked by a Leshen. That took me by surprise. For a second I thought I had sprung a trap making a tree fall over across the riding path, that I had been ambushed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 21:10:01 GMT
Battle at Kaer Morhen, that's a fun battle. I thought he only asked his friends because the Wild Hunt were from another world and the common people (non-mage, non-witcher) wouldn't know how to fight them. And also there's not many humans who would be willing to help a witcher especially in a battle like that or in the case of Roche or Cerys to risk their men when they are needed elsewhere. I'm sure there's a better lore explanation out there.
Did you have time to explore the area around Kaer Morhen. One of the best moments was going to see the Kaer again and having Lambert and the guys there. I did a couple of side quests. I was riding my horse and was attacked by a Leshen. That took me by surprise. For a second I thought I had sprung a trap making a tree fall over across the riding path, that I had been ambushed. heh. The leshen were hard to kill. My first was on a quest to help a village in Skellige.
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Post by Sundance on Mar 10, 2019 21:15:48 GMT
The Emperor's condition for sending troops to Kaer Morhen is that Morvran Voorhis be in command. Right, and Geralt I think automatically says no to that - I don't think we get a chance to make him say yes. But, we do get to go talk to the Emperor, which does cover a common sense choice in the matter - I think we can also ask Dykstra for help but he says no as well. Yeah, it's an automatic no with the Emperor. The best you can get from Dykstra is money.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 10, 2019 23:05:03 GMT
Faceman ,@dustyelf , Sundance, Onecrazymonkey1 So the Wild Hunt are slave hunters. They are an Elven race and wear the armor they wear to strike fear. They are from a different world? Or are they from the same world as Geralt originally but exist on a different world now?
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Post by Laughing Man on Mar 10, 2019 23:11:15 GMT
Faceman ,@dustyelf , Sundance So the Wild Hunt are slave hunters. They are an Elven race and wear the armor they wear to strike fear. They are from a different world? Or are they from the same world as Geralt originally but exist on a different world now? They are elves from a different world. They are called the "Aen Elle", as opposed to the elves from TW's world, who are called the "Aen Seidhe". "The Aen Elle (Elder Speech meaning "People of the Alders", "Alder Folk"), are elves who inhabit another world and are culturally distinct from Aen Seidhe elves. The latter arrived on the Continent after the Conjunction of the Spheres following the destruction of their ancestral homeworld." (quote from the Wiki)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 23:20:30 GMT
Faceman ,@dustyelf , Sundance , Onecrazymonkey1 So the Wild Hunt are slave hunters. They are an Elven race and wear the armor they wear to strike fear. They are from a different world? Or are they from the same world as Geralt originally but exist on a different world now? The Wild Hunt are elves from another world, Ti Na La. I think they are a bit different from the elves on Geralt's world, bigger, stronger, smarter. Yes I think they wear that armor to strike fear in the humans. They are slaver who are now after Ciri for the her elder blood.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 10, 2019 23:21:16 GMT
Faceman ,@dustyelf , Sundance So the Wild Hunt are slave hunters. They are an Elven race and wear the armor they wear to strike fear. They are from a different world? Or are they from the same world as Geralt originally but exist on a different world now? They are elves from a different world. They are called the "Aen Elle", as opposed to the elves from TW's world, who are called the "Aen Seidhe". "The Aen Elle (Elder Speech meaning "People of the Alders", "Alder Folk"), are elves who inhabit another world and are culturally distinct from Aen Seidhe elves. The latter arrived on the Continent after the Conjunction of the Spheres following the destruction of their ancestral homeworld." (quote from the Wiki) Ok, so the elves on TW's world are from another world, but it's not the same world as the Aen Elle's because it got destroyed. Was just reading about the conjunction of the spheres, which was a cataclysm that sent species and races through different dimensions, and now there are non-native races and species scattered all over the multiverse I guess.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Mar 11, 2019 0:10:02 GMT
Faceman ,@dustyelf , Sundance , Onecrazymonkey1 So the Wild Hunt are slave hunters. They are an Elven race and wear the armor they wear to strike fear. They are from a different world? Or are they from the same world as Geralt originally but exist on a different world now? Yup you got it, the Aen Aelle are quite the racist genocidal shitbags. Elves don't even seem to be native to Geralt's world, as I think the gnomes and the vran were there first until the elves killed them off. However I can't rightly tell you what world the elves originally come from, the Aen Aelle used to have the power to world hop and so they would conquer them. It's one of the reasons they want Ciri so much, because her bloodline is from Lara Dorren and she is the last carrier of the elder blood (which is what gives her the ability to jump between worlds). They want to give her ability back to their own people, either from a lab....or possibly through rape.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 11, 2019 0:19:35 GMT
Faceman ,@dustyelf , Sundance , Onecrazymonkey1 So the Wild Hunt are slave hunters. They are an Elven race and wear the armor they wear to strike fear. They are from a different world? Or are they from the same world as Geralt originally but exist on a different world now? Yup you got it, the Aen Aelle are quite the racist genocidal shitbags. Elves don't even seem to be native to Geralt's world, as I think the gnomes and the vran were there first until the elves killed them off. However I can't rightly tell you what world the elves originally come from, the Aen Aelle used to have the power to world hop and so they would conquer them. It's one of the reasons they want Ciri so much, because her bloodline is from Lara Dorren and she is the last carrier of the elder blood (which is what gives her the ability to jump between worlds). They want to give her ability back to their own people, either from a lab....or possibly through rape. I was curious how exactly they want to get her power. If it were sorcery, ritual, or some such. With fiction you can make anything work. You've read the books right? I take it that detail never was spelled out.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Mar 11, 2019 0:24:14 GMT
Yup you got it, the Aen Aelle are quite the racist genocidal shitbags. Elves don't even seem to be native to Geralt's world, as I think the gnomes and the vran were there first until the elves killed them off. However I can't rightly tell you what world the elves originally come from, the Aen Aelle used to have the power to world hop and so they would conquer them. It's one of the reasons they want Ciri so much, because her bloodline is from Lara Dorren and she is the last carrier of the elder blood (which is what gives her the ability to jump between worlds). They want to give her ability back to their own people, either from a lab....or possibly through rape. I was curious how exactly they want to get her power. If it were sorcery, ritual, or some such. With fiction you can make anything work. You've read the books right? I take it that detail never was spelled out. No it was actually pretty obvious that they were either going to use a lab or more natural means to get her genes. I'm just kind of hesitant because I don't want to ruin anything for you in case you ever want to read them. EDIT: There's also a particular character from the books that I loathed and it negatively colored my perception of them in the game, so much so that I'm actually confused by them in the game. However I'll wait until after you're finished for that conversation.
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Post by Onishiro on Mar 11, 2019 1:43:38 GMT
Aen Aelle 4 life. My favorite dark elf design in all fantasy. I just wish my man Eredin got far more screentime to strike fear and giant thunder swords into the hearts of men and other scum of the Continent.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 11, 2019 3:17:53 GMT
I'm at Bald Mountain now. That blind women betrayed me. I might take care of her later if I can find her.
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Post by Sundance on Mar 11, 2019 22:01:28 GMT
For fun...
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Post by novatrex on Mar 12, 2019 0:18:20 GMT
I finished Reason of State. I've disliked Radovid ever since he locked me up in one of the scenarios in TW2. My thinking is that he's a threat to Nilfgaard conquering the whole map, which is good. Yet he's a mortal threat to my friends, and he's also losing his sanity it seems. I decided the latter two outweighed the former, so I joined in on the assassination.
He ordered me killed after I gave Phillipa's location to him, or so he thought. His death at my assistance doesn't bother me at all now, lol. Dykstra sounded power hungry early on. Him turning on Roche and the rest after the assassination didn't really surprise me. I wasn't going to walk out and abandon them, so Dykstra kicked the bucket too.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Mar 12, 2019 1:18:07 GMT
I finished Reason of State. I've disliked Radovid ever since he locked me up in one of the scenarios in TW2. My thinking is that he's a threat to Nilfgaard conquering the whole map, which is good. Yet he's a mortal threat to my friends, and he's also losing his sanity it seems. I decided the latter two outweighed the former, so I joined in on the assassination.
He ordered me killed after I gave Phillipa's location to him, or so he thought. His death at my assistance doesn't bother me at all now, lol. Dykstra sounded power hungry early on. Him turning on Roche and the rest after the assassination didn't really surprise me. I wasn't going to walk out and abandon them, so Dykstra kicked the bucket too. As much as I loathe Nilfgaard, I chose the same descicions. Geralt's loved ones were always my number one concern. I'm not exactly sure why Dickstra suddenly got so stupid thinking he could take on Geralt in a fight though. I was also pretty pissed at him when I asked for help with ciri and he turned me down. He had it coming.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 12, 2019 2:00:53 GMT
I finished Reason of State. I've disliked Radovid ever since he locked me up in one of the scenarios in TW2. My thinking is that he's a threat to Nilfgaard conquering the whole map, which is good. Yet he's a mortal threat to my friends, and he's also losing his sanity it seems. I decided the latter two outweighed the former, so I joined in on the assassination.
He ordered me killed after I gave Phillipa's location to him, or so he thought. His death at my assistance doesn't bother me at all now, lol. Dykstra sounded power hungry early on. Him turning on Roche and the rest after the assassination didn't really surprise me. I wasn't going to walk out and abandon them, so Dykstra kicked the bucket too. As much as I loathe Nilfgaard, I chose the same descicions. Geralt's loved ones were always my number one concern. I'm not exactly sure why Dickstra suddenly got so stupid thinking he could take on Geralt in a fight though. I was also pretty pissed at him when I asked for help with ciri and he turned me down. He had it coming. I checked after the fact, and I think Dykstra will offer you coin when you come and ask for help if you got him both the key and the location of the vault that the key opens earlier. In order to do that you have to put his priority above that of Dandelion's in that mission with Triss though. I don't think there's any negative repercussions beyond making it a little harder on you for doing that because you can still find Dandelion anyway, but I didn't play it that way so I don't know for sure.
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Post by Sundance on Mar 12, 2019 2:53:23 GMT
As much as I loathe Nilfgaard, I chose the same descicions. Geralt's loved ones were always my number one concern. {Spoiler} I'm not exactly sure why Dickstra suddenly got so stupid thinking he could take on Geralt in a fight though. I was also pretty pissed at him when I asked for help with ciri and he turned me down. He had it coming. {Spoiler}I checked after the fact, and I think Dykstra will offer you coin when you come and ask for help if you got him both the key and the location of the vault that the key opens earlier. In order to do that you have to put his priority above that of Dandelion's in that mission with Triss though. I don't think there's any negative repercussions beyond making it a little harder on you for doing that because you can still find Dandelion anyway, but I didn't play it that way so I don't know for sure. {https://i.imgur.com/AXqOMrX.png}To get Dijkstra to offer funds you have to ask Menge about the treasure instead of Dandelion when you're in his office.
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Post by Onishiro on Mar 12, 2019 3:24:28 GMT
Never knew that. Still, I hated having to kill the big guy. He must've ingested a lot of fisstech that day after Geralt can roflstomp him twice, an quite literally at that. His banter with Dijkstra was always comedy gold.
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Post by novatrex on Mar 12, 2019 3:31:25 GMT
{Spoiler}I checked after the fact, and I think Dykstra will offer you coin when you come and ask for help if you got him both the key and the location of the vault that the key opens earlier. In order to do that you have to put his priority above that of Dandelion's in that mission with Triss though. I don't think there's any negative repercussions beyond making it a little harder on you for doing that because you can still find Dandelion anyway, but I didn't play it that way so I don't know for sure. {https://i.imgur.com/AXqOMrX.png}To get Dijkstra to offer funds you have to ask Menge about the treasure instead of Dandelion when you're in his office. That's what I meant when I said that you have to put Dykstra's(treasure) priority above that of Dandelion, because it's the order that you ask that determines it. If you ask about Dandelion first and then ask about the treasure, all you get is the key, because he attacks after you ask about the treasure if you asked about Dandelion first. If you ask about the treasure first, you find out where it's at but he doesn't tell you where Dandelion is when you ask about him after that.
Edit: Correction. I think he attacks if you ask about the treasure first and then ask about Dandelion, but not if you ask about Dandelion first. Either way it depends on the order that you ask whether or not you find out either where Dandelion is or where the treasure is.
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